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Bards Vs. Sorcerers

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Kejka
5:09:30 pm GMT 07/07/10
Kejka Registered Member #1262 Joined: 5:44:27 am GMT 02/24/08
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Are bards just artistic sorcerers??

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Eldurain
5:12:52 pm GMT 07/07/10
Eldurain Tempting as it was, I decided not to go round hitting people with a crowbar.
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Really depends on how you play your bard. Bards can take all sorts of shapes, IMO.

And their magic doesn't necessary have to come from bloodlines or something. It can simply be a magical instrument or they use songs, poems and dance in the same way a wizard uses incantations and hand gestures. Both have to be studied.
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Jane Galt
5:16:46 pm GMT 07/07/10
Jane Galt Registered Member #1491 Joined: 2:37:55 am GMT 11/16/09
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It can also be spells they've picked up along the way as they're exploring tombs with wizards, et cetera. I'm sure a spell once in awhile would come in handy for a scholarly adventurer.
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Kejka
5:18:42 pm GMT 07/07/10
Kejka Registered Member #1262 Joined: 5:44:27 am GMT 02/24/08
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As a sorcerer (magic from bloodline) there is still a verbal and somatic aspect to casting spells though, right?

Is that applicable to bards?
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Eldurain
5:22:06 pm GMT 07/07/10
Eldurain Tempting as it was, I decided not to go round hitting people with a crowbar.
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I think bards (bards, bards that is) still need to "learn" spells, songs, poems, dances, playing said instrument much like a wizard. But they can also be gifted, through magic blood but use songs and such as catalysts. In the end it all boils down to your choice of what kind of Bardic character you want to play. I'd say they are a diverse class when it comes to "RPing your magic"

Where as a Sorcerer, I think, does all his stuff on instinct. Like, "When I do this and say that then that goes boom!"
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C_McG
5:22:35 pm GMT 07/07/10
C_McG *lurks from behind the screen*
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And nothing says that bards have to be great musicians or musically based. Think of a great orator, they could easily be a bard (isn’t Shakespeare sometimes called “The Bard”?). Someone that is observant and able to use their surroundings to move or inspire people. But with the eye to pick out details that can be used to their benefit.

In this case, they could be sorcerer like, or as Jane said someone with a magical inclination that has just learned to use it from watching and learning.
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Kejka
5:23:42 pm GMT 07/07/10
Kejka Registered Member #1262 Joined: 5:44:27 am GMT 02/24/08
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So essentially, a bard might gain an initial ability from a mysterious bloodline (like a mutant) but still has to practice what they do and study it to hone their skill?
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Eldurain
5:27:42 pm GMT 07/07/10
Eldurain Tempting as it was, I decided not to go round hitting people with a crowbar.
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I'll take Itarildé as an example. She is blooded though mastered her skills in Magic through a combination of training (by a bardic Loremaster), stuff she picked up through study as she travelled the world and plain instinct.

I think the difference is that Bards don't have to have a mysterious bloodline to cast spells. Sorcerers are kinda expected to have mysterious bloodlines.
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SynKitten
5:31:05 pm GMT 07/07/10
SynKitten Registered Member #1592 Joined: 5:11:13 pm GMT 06/29/10
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Bards still need somatic and verbal componants. The concept here is that a Sorc, uses their innate bloodlines to pulls and manipulate directly from the weave of their choice.

A bard uses their abilitys to manipulate the surroundings through song, dance, and the like to essentially weave themselves into the weave of their choice thus allowing them access to most of their spells which can or have some method of being interpreted in their dance/song/rhyme/acting.

Example -
Johnny the Sorc, realizes he's about to be off'd by a group of gobbys and decides to try to pluck the power of fire from the weave and launch it as a large ball to blow up the creatures. Essentially using his bloodline as his source he can see or feel the weave around him thus manipulating the element of fire to form the ball and hence launch it.

Sara the bard runs into the same situation... and begins her dance of the storms... she spins willing the energies around her to copy her motions turning into a storm.. then she ends the dance with a drop to the ground as if symbolizing the storm she brewed hailing ice and stone... Hence.. ice storm...

Same Idea.. just different application ^.^
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Kejka
5:33:11 pm GMT 07/07/10
Kejka Registered Member #1262 Joined: 5:44:27 am GMT 02/24/08
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Renegade wrote ...

Bards don't have to have a mysterious bloodline to cast spells.

So what jane and you are saying -here- is that a bard can be completely human and pick up on things sort of like a wizard... but the magic just comes naturally to them....somehow? wait... Now i'm confused again.
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