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  • Stormmy
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    Randomly decided to check in after years and see talk of Doordie and Amel. Lots of fun memories! Arguably my first long time character, Narwyn, ended up closely aligned with Amel as his protege.

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    I remember Amel! Great player. Moby and he had a few fun showdowns.

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    @TheSaltyDemon, Yes I definately remember Doordie! Amel was one of the best rp'ed/complex characters on the server. Love that guy!

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Hennes
8:49:09 pm GMT 07/28/07
Hennes Registered Member #808 Joined: 2:00:54 am GMT 07/06/06
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I was recently in a discussion with someone who told me that a Paladin is allowed to kill a Half-Dragon simply by virtue of it being a Half-Dragon.

Somehow I find that completely opposed to the spirit of playing a Paladin. Can someone shed some light on this?
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RocketNumber09
8:55:19 pm GMT 07/28/07
RocketNumber09 Registered Member #920 Joined: 10:53:31 pm GMT 11/21/06
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A half-dragon is considered evil by most. No different than killing a drow or an orc.
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Kira
8:56:57 pm GMT 07/28/07
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A paladin could choose to view all half-dragons as a threat, and slaughter them accordingly. This is no different from a paladin viewing all NPC orcs as a threat and not giving them a chance to talk before slaughtering them.

Another paladin could choose not to do this, if that was within his/her character.

One thing many people don't understand about paladins is that they can have different approaches. Two paladins can disagree on approach, with neither one being 'wrong' within their alignment or the paladin code.
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Hennes
8:58:50 pm GMT 07/28/07
Hennes Registered Member #808 Joined: 2:00:54 am GMT 07/06/06
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But it's only half-dragon. And isn't it wrong to kill something by simple virtue of what it is?

I mean, I really question the LG of a Paladin who would kill something that didn't mean any harm and had done nothing wrong, but was a half-drow, half-dragon or a Tiefling.
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Kira
9:10:05 pm GMT 07/28/07
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Hennes wrote ...
But it's only half-dragon. And isn't it wrong to kill something by simple virtue of what it is?

I mean, I really question the LG of a Paladin who would kill something that didn't mean any harm and had done nothing wrong, but was a half-drow, half-dragon or a Tiefling.

In the D&D world, killing evil races is a fact of life for adventurers. Evil races (like drow, chromatic dragons, ect) are in a state of war with PC races. It's literally a kill-or-be-killed situation, and characters should act accordingly.

Imagine a creature that attacks your city and destroys thousands of lives, every time it gets hungry. Imagine a race that lives in isolation, only coming out to murder and pillage and torture every living creature they can find. You can't view it through the same light as you view killing people in the real world, because many creatures in D&D are innately evil, and will kill you the first chance they get.

A paladin who ignores every half-drow or half-dragon has blood on his hands when one of them starts killing people. It is more dangerous to let those creatures live than to let them die. Whether a specific paladin is willing to slay a creature that might possibly not be evil, in order to potentially save many lives, comes down to the individual character.
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RangerSG
9:11:51 pm GMT 07/28/07
RangerSG Registered Member #1089 Joined: 8:50:23 am GMT 06/30/07
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Hennes,

Also there are reason without Thain lore why this is so. Dragonkin have been a bain to the populace in the past. There's no reason to belive they've changed.
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Hennes
9:34:33 pm GMT 07/28/07
Hennes Registered Member #808 Joined: 2:00:54 am GMT 07/06/06
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Well sure I wouldn't be quick to give mercy to a Goblin, but the races I mentioned above have at the very least, half of their heritage as one of the PC races. Surely this grants them at least some measure of control over their alignment?
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Kira
9:39:52 pm GMT 07/28/07
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Hennes wrote ...
Well sure I wouldn't be quick to give mercy to a Goblin, but the races I mentioned above have at the very least, half of their heritage as one of the PC races. Surely this grants them at least some measure of control over their alignment?

Maybe. Is that worth risking dozens of innocent lives?
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Hennes
9:42:38 pm GMT 07/28/07
Hennes Registered Member #808 Joined: 2:00:54 am GMT 07/06/06
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No, I guess not. But what if the creature really is innocent? Wouldn't that cause the Paladin to fall anyway?
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gregispoor
9:45:31 pm GMT 07/28/07
gregispoor Registered Member #924 Joined: 10:11:28 pm GMT 11/25/06
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Ok, sure. They may have /some/ control over their alighnment, but for how long? Perhaps a better question is: How many lives out side of yours are you willing to risk in hopes that this Chromatic can control his dragon side? All the lore of the time will tell you that Chromatics are inhiertly evil. That being said, my paladin will be hard pressed to find a reason /not/ to kill one. As he sees it: "Let the gods sort them out. If they are truely good, then they should have nothing to worry about when they die."

Gregems out.
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