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  • Stormmy
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    Randomly decided to check in after years and see talk of Doordie and Amel. Lots of fun memories! Arguably my first long time character, Narwyn, ended up closely aligned with Amel as his protege.

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    Doordie was one of the best RP's I ever played with. His stories, with his character Amel, were amazing. Rich, deep, complex. I hope Doordie is doing well! You have a really great Uncle!

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    Absolutely remember him! Amel was a beast, he was one of the best rp'd villains of all time. How is he?

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Payne
5:34:14 pm GMT 05/30/06
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I just want to clear something up, I'm still not 100% clear on what these numbers do.

From what I have tried to learn an Attack Bonues is "speed of attack"?

And Enhancement is "bonus to hit"?

Is this true?

For example lets pick a weapon.

Weapon one does same damage and critical range, but has a +3 Attack Bonus

Weapon two has a +1 enhancement.

I would say hitting is more important than swinging it madly, so the Enhanced one would be better.

Or am I wrong in seeing this?

I know if some cleric or wizard comes along and casts GMW on the blade the AB maybe better, but lets just assume your alone and no GMW is not to come.
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Bonesly
5:37:46 pm GMT 05/30/06
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Payne wrote ...
Attack Bonues is "speed of attack"?
No, attack bonus improves "to hit" and has nothing to do with number of attacks per round. Damage bonus only adds to "damage"
Payne wrote ...
Enhancement is "bonus to hit"?
Yes, but more... Enchancement is "to hit plus damage" You need an Attack bonus of +5 to break through Damage Resistance (DR) on some creatures (e.g., Shadowdune Golems), so Attack is very important. Alternatively magical damage (anything other than bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing damage) will by-pass DR, so that's a sweet bonus to have.
Payne wrote ...
I know if some cleric or wizard comes along and casts GMW on the blade the AB maybe better, but lets just assume your alone and no GMW is not to come.
It's not just the AB that's better... GMW is a temporary enhancement so you get +5 attack and +5 damage. As to whether a +3 attack or +1 enchancement is better... depends on the situation... I'd probably prefer the +3 attack as you get hits more often and the +1 damage just isn't going to matter that much, especially if you apply it less often because +1 misses more than +3 for attack, but that's just my opinoin. [ Edited 05:46:43 PM 05/30/06 ]
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Yasmyn
5:40:25 pm GMT 05/30/06
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No, you've not got it right. smile Attack bonus is added to your total "to hit". It increases your chance of hitting something, nothing to do with speed of hitting anything or number of attacks. Enhancement is added both to your total "to hit" and to your damage. It increases both your chance of hitting something and the amount of damage you do. So taking your examples: A weapon with +3 attack increases your total chance to hit by 3. A weapon with +1 enhancement increases your chance to hit by 1, and also increases your damage by one. I believe both attack bonus and enhancement bonus goes through damage reduction, i.e. if a monster can only be damaged by a +1 weapon, then a weapon with either +1 attack bonus or +1 enhancement will damage it (though the weapon with enhancement will do 1 point more damage). [ Edited 05:40:40 PM 05/30/06 ]
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Taniki
5:44:13 pm GMT 05/30/06
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I never realised until now that Attack Bonus cut through DR... I thought it was just enchantment confused

Thank you for making that clear smile
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Yasmyn
5:50:58 pm GMT 05/30/06
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Bonesly, you cheated tongue
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Bonesly
5:58:21 pm GMT 05/30/06
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It should just be enhancment from what I always knew in 2E PnP rules... not sure if that changed in 3e rules, but that's clearly the way it works in NWN, Taniki.
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Bonesly
5:59:56 pm GMT 05/30/06
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Yas wrote ...
Bonesly, you cheated tongue
*does not consider the edit button a cheat* Besides, I didn't like my first answer! *smirks*
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MadskillsMike
6:18:53 pm GMT 05/30/06
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I think that AB cutting through DR is a "feature" of NWN rather than something in the 3:d D&D rules.
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Amracil
6:39:33 pm GMT 05/30/06
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I was always under the impression that attack bonus increased the chance for getting a hit, but that only an enhancement bonus could immediately bypass damage reduction (assuming the enhancement bonus is at least equal to the damage reduction.)

That is to say, a creature with damage reduction +1/20 could be damaged if...

A +3 attack bonus weapon did a total damage in an attack of 25 hit points, only 5 points of which would be actual damage as the damage reduction would absorb or "soak" up the first 20 points...

Or a +1 enhancement bonus weapon which, if it did a total of 25 points of damage would cause 25 points of damage to the creature as the +1 enhancement overrides the +1 damage reduction.

The "attack" bonus weapon offers +2 better to hit, but does nothing to automatically (magically) bypass damage reduction.

Willing to stand corrected...

Am
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Yasmyn
6:50:39 pm GMT 05/30/06
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A quick Google suggests you might be right on that Am smile I wasn't sure when I originally suggested it as being the case, but seems it might be. Of course, someone could test and find out for definite grin
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